[molpro-user] Frequency calculation

Jayashree yfpjaya at gmail.com
Sun Oct 5 01:04:04 BST 2008


I am now using my input with symmetry. and with the last line as you
suggested - {frequency,central} and I get the following message -
PROGRAM * HESSIAN
 Computing numerical hessian using default procedure for command CASSCF
 Symmetry elements for unique displacements: Y
 Using no symmetry in wavefunction calculations
 Running default procedure: CASSCF000
  Numerically approximating hessian using central gradient differences
 Task list generated. Total number of displacements:     21
 ?STATE SYMMETRY NOT POSSIBLE: 2
I have attached my input and output file.

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Kirk Peterson <kipeters at wsu.edu> wrote:

>
> If you turn off symmetry, then both the A' and A" have symmetry A and you
> do have two states of the same symmetry.  From the look of this output
> though it appears that state-averaged gradients only work with segmented
> basis sets which is not the newer program that can do analytical hessians.
>  Your frequency calculation would then calculate the hessian by numerical
> differentiation of the analytical gradient (so disregard my cpmcscf,hess
> input).
> So I would recommend going back to your original input  (in symmetry),
> removing the 2nd cpmcscf card, and in the frequency command use:
> freq,central
>
> -Kirk
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Jayashree wrote:
>
> Two things -
> 1. I need to have a UHF input, since I am dealing with a doublet.
> 2. The present calculation is a conical intersection between A' and A"
> states. This is same as the conical intersection at the C3v geometry of
> methoxy molecule. In that case, I cannot have 2 states in the symmetry 1.
>
> But in any case, I tried the input given to me by you, and it terminates
> with the following message - (this is the section of output of MULTI
> program..the UHF and optg calculations run ok.
> 1PROGRAM * MULTI (Direct Multiconfiguration SCF)       Authors: P.J.
> Knowles, H.-J. Werner (1984)     S.T. Elbert (1988)
>  Number of closed-shell orbitals:  3 (  3 )
>  Number of active  orbitals:       6 (  6 )
>  Number of external orbitals:     37 ( 37 )
>  State symmetry 1
>  Number of electrons:    11    Spin symmetry=Doublet   Space symmetry=1
>  Number of states:        2
>  Number of CSFs:          6   (6 determinants, 6 intermediate states)
>  NOEXTRA OPTION SET FOR FREQUENCY CALCULATION
>  Molecular orbitals read from record     2200.2  Type=UHF/NATURAL (state
> 1.1)
>  Wavefunction dump at record             2140.2
>  Convergence thresholds  0.10E-05 (gradient)  0.10E-07 (energy)  0.10E-02
> (step length)
>  Weight factors for state symmetry  1:    0.50000   0.50000
>  Number of orbital rotations:     351     (  18 Core/Active  111
> Core/Virtual   0 Active/Active  222 Active/Virtual)
>  Total number of variables:       363
>  ITER. MIC  NCI  NEG     ENERGY(VAR)     ENERGY(PROJ)   ENERGY CHANGE
> GRAD(0)  GRAD(ORB)   GRAD(CI)     STEP       TIME
>  ?WARNING, SMALL DIAGONAL HESSIAN ELEMENT FOR ROTATION 3.1 -  4.1
> D1E=-0.248D-06  D2E= 0.421D-07
>  ?WARNING, SMALL DIAGONAL HESSIAN ELEMENT FOR ROTATION 3.1 -  5.1
> D1E=-0.632D-07  D2E= 0.135D-07
>    1   60    7    0    -114.40430384    -114.40955138   -0.00524754
> 0.05457236 0.00064851 0.00000000  0.44D-01      0.35
>  ERROR EXIT
>  CURRENT STACK:      MAIN
>    2  201   15    0    -114.40957522    -114.40957745   -0.00000223
> 0.00273117 0.00003244 0.00000000  0.10D-02      1.03
>    3   60   16    0    -114.40957745    -114.40957745    0.00000000
> 0.00003241 0.00000000 0.00000000  0.28D-04      1.56
>  ** WVFN ****  CONVERGENCE REACHED, FINAL GRADIENT:  0.42D-09
>  CPMCSCF calculation required for state-averaged gradient calculation.
> Please add
>  CPMCSCF,GRAD,STATE=istate.isym
>  to the mcscf/casscf input, where istate.isym specifies the state for which
> the gradients are required.
>  Note that gradients for state-averaged MCSCF can only be computed with
> segmented basis sets.
>  For more details, please refer to the MOLPRO manual.
>  ? Error
>  ? Missing cpmcscf
>  ? The problem occurs in musave
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> If I use the following input indicating that the intersection is of states
> of different symmetry, it terminates with the following message -
>  NOEXTRA OPTION SET FOR FREQUENCY CALCULATION
>
>  ?STATE SYMMETRY NOT POSSIBLE: 2
>
> My input looks like this -
> basis=6-311++G
> geomtype={zmat}
> geometry={Angstrom;nosym
>           c;
>           o,c,oc;
>           h1,c,h1c,o,h1co;
>           h2,c,h1c,o,h1co,h1,120.0;
>           h3,c,h1c,o,h1co,h1,240.0}
> oc=1.410000, h1c=1.100000, h1co=109.100000
>
>  {uhf} !uhf input without symmetry
>  put,molden,met_uhf_6311++g.molden
>
>  {optg,space=zmat}
>  put,molden,met_opt_6311++g.molden
>
>  {casscf;
>   occ,9;
>   closed,3;
>   wf,17,1,1;
>   state,1;
>   weight,0.5
>   wf,17,2,1;
>   state,1;
>   weight,0.5
>   start,orbital=2200.2
>
>   CPMCSCF,HESS}
>  {optg,startcmd=casscf}
>  put,molden,met_cas_6311++g_con.molden
>  {frequencies}
>
> Any hope of calculating frequencies keeping symmetry in the input?
> Thanks
> Jayashree
>
> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Kirk Peterson <kipeters at wsu.edu> wrote:
>
>> The analytical MCSCF hessian calculation can only be performed without
>> symmetry.  I'm not sure about state-averaged wavefunctions, but you can try
>> put a "nosym" in your geometry block after "Angstrom", comment out your rhf
>> input, and then in your casscf input change this to something like:
>>  {casscf;
>>   occ,9;
>>   closed,3;
>>   wf,17,1,1;
>>   state,2;
>>   CPMCSCF,HESS}
>>
>>
>> -Kirk
>>
>> On Oct 3, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Jayashree wrote:
>>
>> I have located a conical intersection corresponding to the C3v geometry in
>> methoxy molecule. I would like to calculate the normal mode frequencies of
>> the molecule at this geometry. If I try to give the command 'frequencies'
>> below 'optg', I get the following error:
>>  ?STATE SYMMETRY NOT POSSIBLE: 2
>> How do I calculate the frequencies?
>>
>> This is how my input file looks like -
>> ***,methoxy
>> memory,128,m
>> file,2,met_cas_6311++g.wf,new;
>> punch,met_cas_6311++g.pun
>>
>> gprint,basis,orbitals=6,civector
>>
>> basis=6-311++G
>> geomtype={zmat}
>> geometry={Angstrom;
>>           c;
>>           o,c,oc;
>>           h1,c,h1c,o,h1co;
>>           h2,c,h1c,o,h1co,h1,120.0;
>>           h3,c,h1c,o,h1co,h1,240.0}
>> oc=1.410000, h1c=1.100000, h1co=109.100000
>>
>>  {uhf !uhf input with symmetry
>>   occ,7,2
>>   open,7.1
>>   wf,17,1,1}
>>  put,molden,met_uhf_6311++g.molden
>>
>>  {optg,space=zmat}
>>  put,molden,met_opt_6311++g.molden
>>
>>  {casscf;
>>   occ,7,2;
>>   closed,3,0;
>>   wf,17,1,1;
>>   state,1;
>>   weight,0.5
>>   wf,17,2,1;
>>   state,1;
>>   weight,0.5
>>   start,orbital=2200.2
>> !put,molden,met_cas_6311++g_gs.molden
>>
>>   CPMCSCF,GRAD,1.1,spin=0.5,accu=1.0d-7,record=5101.1
>>   CPMCSCF,GRAD,1.2,spin=0.5,accu=1.0d-7,record=5102.1}
>>   put,molden,met_cas_6311++g.molden
>>
>>   {Force
>>   SAMC,5101.1
>>   CONICAL,6100.1}
>>
>>   {Force
>>   SAMC,5102.1
>>   CONICAL,6100.1}
>>
>>  {optg,startcmd=casscf}
>>  put,molden,met_cas_6311++g_con.molden
>>  {frequencies}
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jayashree
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>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Jayashree
>
>
>


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Jayashree
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